Silas Gaither
Juror
Africa ~ 3rd Place
Its time to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of gum. ;-)
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Post by Silas Gaither on May 19, 2009 16:38:34 GMT -4
I'm not going to posy my question just yet...
The reason any of you gave Joel the immunity idol was because you wanted to spice it up, or just make sure BB's plan was messed up, it had NOTHING to do with Joel's gameplay.
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Post by Sarah Jones on May 19, 2009 17:51:41 GMT -4
Hey guys.
BB: My question to you is, were you using me as an extra vote and using me as an easy beat in the final 2?(In Which I thought and thats why I tried to get rid of you) Or was it all honest and true feelings?
Joel: Grats on being there, you did great getting there. Name me one GOOD reason on why you should win over BB.
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Post by Kimmi Kappenberg on May 19, 2009 17:55:10 GMT -4
Just want to say it. I tried to get people against you BB, at F9. I talked a lot with Shawn about it, and we decided to go for Roger *gasp*. Obviously it didn't work. However, at F8 I PMed Roger and Sarah about it, and it seemed Sarah was all up for it. She told me she felt like she'd be getting 4th by going with you guys. However Roger didn't tell me anything. Later on, I talked with Rob and he was up for voting you out too. I think it was good for you that I went at F8, because you'd of left if you didn't win the F7 immunity If I was in. Or so I think. And Shawn gave immunity to Joel so Christy would use her idol, and you'd leave. And he didn't give it to me because he didn't fully trust me. That's what I know. We all know it didn't work, though. Probably because of the Temporary Tribes. And I will not my Questions/Statements yet, which I am sorry for.
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Joel Klug
Runner Up
Borneo ~ 3rd Place
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Post by Joel Klug on May 19, 2009 18:29:22 GMT -4
I'm not going to posy my question just yet...
The reason any of you gave Joel the immunity idol was because you wanted to spice it up, or just make sure BB's plan was messed up, it had NOTHING to do with Joel's gameplay
Thta may have some part in it i am not deneying that BUT i dont think i would have gotten them if i hadtn talked to people tho.. There is more to a game then stargezing and stuff. U have to be nice and chat with as many people u can. I did that although maybe my alliance wasnt always honest with me i was with them. I didnt know Sarah had given me the secret immunity i was shocked i do know her from another game and we workd in there. For Shawn given it to me we have chatted a few times and he knew one of our other alliance membes had the idol so he wanted me to be safe.... So it does have some stuff to do with my game play cause i had to talk to them to see what was going on and see how thigns was going
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Joel Klug
Runner Up
Borneo ~ 3rd Place
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Post by Joel Klug on May 19, 2009 18:33:55 GMT -4
Joel: Grats on being there, you did great getting there. Name me one GOOD reason on why you should win over BB.
I mean i guess its in ur eyes who played the better game. I did what i had to do to get here. It may not have been as drastic as BB but i did get here and i am proud of it. I think my social game is what i did best in this game i was always talking to the right people and was in the know as far i knew to do what was right for me to get here sitting in the final 2. I am shocked and u know i wouldnt have been sitting here with out u and to that i say thank u. I must say i was shocked and surprised when it was anounced. I am loyal to the people i am with and nice and considerate and i think me and u got along and i was 100 percent honest with u . So i say i think i had a better social game then BB did
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Joel Klug
Runner Up
Borneo ~ 3rd Place
Posts: 998
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Post by Joel Klug on May 19, 2009 18:41:04 GMT -4
So my question is twofold: 1) There was a lot going around about people "not being deserving" of being All Stars. So I want to know from each of you: Why does each juror deserve being an All Star, and why don't they deserve to be an All Star? 2) There was also a lot going around that the people on the Jury were not the most deserving to be on the Jury. So if you could replace each juror with someone that didn't make the jury, who would you pick and why?
I think id replace them with Ramona and Shawna... Ramona was pretty tight with me in the season i was in and Shawna and i had an alliance this time arounf but of course it didnt last to long lol
Christa: She was a trouble starter lol and would take away from what was really going on in the game
Kim: Strong competitor and was one of my allies. Left to soon
Shawna: Was in my alliance in the beginning . Strong but think she went out to soon
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Joel Klug
Runner Up
Borneo ~ 3rd Place
Posts: 998
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Post by Joel Klug on May 19, 2009 18:43:02 GMT -4
Deb: I think she went out to soon and from what i hear she was a nice person
Stephanie: Another one who went out to soon and was a good person i do belive
I think everyone is derserving once they hit jury stage. They had to do something great or work there way in to as getting as far as they can. So i dont think none of them are less deserving then the other
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Post by B.B. Andersen on May 19, 2009 18:52:29 GMT -4
BB: My question to you is, were you using me as an extra vote and using me as an easy beat in the final 2?(In Which I thought and thats why I tried to get rid of you) Or was it all honest and true feelings?
I was honest and true with you when i told you that I thought you were someone I could beat in the final 2. Im pretty sure I told you that as soon as you got back from your vacation. I never tried to hide that from you. I knew that there wasnt going to be any control over the end game. Once we got to 4 I knew anything could happen. I wanted people with me at the end that I felt like I could beat and you were one of them.
Later on, I talked with Rob and he was up for voting you out too. I think it was good for you that I went at F8, because you'd of left if you didn't win the F7 immunity If I was in. Or so I think.
I knew that I was in the most trouble at the final 9 final 8 and final 7. As the numbers dwindled there were less people here that would vote for me and I ddint need to worry so much. I knew the idols would become a huge pain in the ass and thats why we used the temporary dividing the tribes power the way we did. We put everyone with an idol on one tribe and hoped like hell that we would win Immunity. I knew that we could have potentially gotten rid of 3 idols at that tribal council and thats exactly what we did. As soon as I knew what that power did I knew thats how I wanted to use it
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Post by B.B. Andersen on May 19, 2009 18:57:05 GMT -4
I really dont think Joel played a better social game then me. Playing a good scoail game doesnt mean asking everyone before tribal who they are voting for because if thats the case everyone here played a good social game. Every vote I had 5 or 6 people asking me how to vote. If that doesnt show who has control over the game I dont know what does.
As for the people who I didnt talk too like Shawn or Christy. I already had things in place and already had a good idea of how things were going to play out therough the middle part of the game. My strategy didnt include either of you and any attempt at talking to you guys could have been viewed as me backstabbing you later. I already made too many promises in this game that I couldnt keep so I figured it was best to try not to burn anymore bridges with people that I didnt need to talk to.
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Post by Kimmi Kappenberg on May 19, 2009 19:31:33 GMT -4
You are forgetting me, BB. But I will clarify that later.
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Post by B.B. Andersen on May 19, 2009 20:00:30 GMT -4
I talked to you right up to the point where I screwed you and Kim over. After that i didnt bother because anything I said to you would have been used against me later.
I thought about talking to about what i did and explaining myself to you but I know you would have copied and pasted our conversation and showed everyone. Its the same reason I never gave Kim and explaination after I banished her. I couldnt properly explain myself without giving my game away so I choose to take the safe route and not say anything but I will explain it now.
There was about a 50/50 chance me and Silas were going to go along with the plan I came up with involving you and Kim. I also knew the auction was going to be a difference maker. Once I had a way to pretty much know what every item was and have either direct control or indirect control over every item there was no way I was going to pass up that chance. As a result Rob got some very valuable items that I didnt want to go to waste by going along with that plan. Also...I knew I could accomplish essentially the same thing using all 5 auction items. I was able to banish someone with an Idol, we were able to use the buff thing to eliminate 3 Hii. Obviosuly the vetoing of secret immunity speaks for itself and the cancelling votes power really made it easy for us to split the votes to get around any possible Hii or secret immunity. Because of the auction I found a much easier and less complicated way to accomplish the same thing.
Truthfully I thought the crossbow would have been the power that got to eliminate someone and thats why I let Rob have it. I didnt want to be the one to have to make the choice and I figure if it was Rob that did I wouldnt get burned afterwards.
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Post by Kimmi Kappenberg on May 19, 2009 20:06:44 GMT -4
Actually, you didn't screw me in the least bit. At least by getting Kim out. Just so you know, I needed you to the point to get information, if I didn't bother to want it from other people. If you remember correctly, I lied you when I told you Frank left and it was Stephanie. From that you should of known I didn't really trust you.
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Post by B.B. Andersen on May 19, 2009 20:11:53 GMT -4
I knew Stephanie was going to be the one getting votes. Thats why em and Silas tried to get her to play her Idol. She didnt listen and look what happened
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Post by Kimmi Kappenberg on May 19, 2009 20:18:39 GMT -4
But do you remember you tried to tell me what to do that TC? You told me to tell Stephanie I was voting Joel, "which wouldn't be a lie". Well, duh. And it was mainly because of me why she didn't play the idol, but we won't talk about that. I just wanted to say you didn't control me at any stage of the game. Not like you said it, though.
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Post by B.B. Andersen on May 19, 2009 20:21:26 GMT -4
I never said I controlled you. I said I pretty much controlled the game. There were 19 other people here. Its impossible to control everyones actions and reactions. I never needed to control you. I came up with a plan that included you but as soon as we decided not to go through with it I no longer needed you for anything.
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